F1 = Bullshit! – post by IM Blowsky – 15-09-2009
Es increíble lo zafios que son los ingleses con los mediterráneos en general, aunque supongo que es algo recíproco. Según la FIA estas transcripciones prueban la implicación de Briatore en el supuesto accidente provocado en Singapur el año pasado. No es que sea forofo de Alonso pero vamos, pensar que un equipo en el que no saben ni apretar las tuercas de las ruedas van a planificar y ejecutar a la perfección el accidente y todo lo que sigue es de coña.
La conversación:
In the early part of the race, there were several exchanges between Symonds and the engineers about Alonso’s race strategy, with Symonds preparing the ground to drop the original three-stop approach and change it to a two-stop strategy that would better fit with any plan for Piquet to crash.
“I can tell you now we are not three-stopping,” Symonds is heard to say on the transcript made by the FIA as part of its evidence in the case, a copy of which has been seen by The Times.
Later Symonds adds to an unnamed engineer: “Don’t worry about fuel because I’m going to get him [Alonso] out of this traffic earlier than that.”
Not long afterwards comes an unusual intervention from Piquet, who was running towards the back of the field in the early stages of Formula One’s first night race. But the novelty factor for him was not the floodlights. It has now been suggested that he was worried about which lap he was on because he knew he had special instructions for lap 14.
Piquet says: “What lap are we in, what lap are we in?”
A few seconds later an engineer tells the others on the wall: “He just asked: ‘What lap are we in?’ ”
Symonds intervenes: “Yeah, tell him that he’s about to complete lap 8.”
Symonds insists Piquet is then told something he should know from his pitboard, which is shown to him at the end of every lap. “No, just tell him, he is about, he’s just completing, he’s about to complete lap eight.”
After Piquet is given the information, the discussion returns to the timing of Alonso’s first stop and Symonds makes his decision. “Right, I’m going to . . . I think we’re going to stop him just before we catch him [a reference to the Williams driver, Kazuki Nakajima, who was ahead of Alonso] and get him out of it, the reason being we’ve still got this worry on the fuel pump. It’s only a couple of laps short. We’re going to be stopping him early and we’re going to go to lap 40.”
This decision prompts an engineer, who wants assurance from Symonds that a tactical option that would drop Alonso to last is the right thing to do. “Pat, do you still not think that this is a bit too early?” he asks a few minutes later. “We only did six tenths that lap.”
Symonds replies: “No, no it’s going to be all right.”
“OK, OK, understood,” the engineer responds.
Once Alonso has made his stop, Symonds tells everybody that it is time to “concentrate on” Piquet. After assessing the Brazilian’s position, he and Briatore decide Piquet has to quicken up as the fateful lap draws near.
Symonds to the engineer: “OK right, you’ve got to push him really bloody hard now. If he doesn’t get past Barrichello, he’s going nowhere, he’s got to get past Barrichello this lap.”
“Tell him, push . . .,” Briatore says.
Piquet’s race engineer gives him the hurry-up: “Nelson, no excuses now, you’ve got to get past Barrichello. You’ve got four clicks straight-line advantage. Come on, you’ve got to push now, you must get past him.”
Moments later Piquet crashes at turn 17, where there are no cranes to lift the wreckage, making a safety car inevitable, and at the point at which he alleges Symonds told him to do the deed during a meeting before the race.
Multiple voices: “Nelson’s off. F***ing hell. Nelson’s had a crash. I would say that would be a red flag. It’s huge [all speaking at the same time] .
Piquet: “Sorry guys. I had a little outing.”
Engineer: “Is he all right, Is he all right?”
Symonds: “Ask him if he’s all right.”
Engineer: “Are you OK? Are you OK?”
Engineer: “Fernando’s just gone past it.”
Engineer: “OK, yellow flag.”
Piquet: “Yeah, I hit my head in the back. I think I’m OK.”
Engineer: “OK, understood.”
Symonds: “Right [inaudible], stop him.”
Engineer: “Safety car, safety car, safety car, safety car. Fernando, safety car, mixture three.”
Symonds: “Tell him to be careful, turn 17 I think it is.”
After several exchanges about Alonso, an engineer expresses concern, presumably after seeing the crash on the television monitor, but Briatore seems unconcerned and is angry with Piquet.
Engineer: “F***ing hell that was a big shunt.”
Briatore: “F***ing hell . . . my every f***ing disgrace, f***ing, he’s not a driver.”
Then Symonds asks about Alonso’s suddenly improving prospects.
Symonds: “What position is Fernando in?”
Engineer: “Well, we were 20, and we’re first guy to pick the safety car up.”
Symonds: “Yeah, we’re not . . .”
Engineer: “He will get away past it but he’s got to wait.”
Later Briatore and Symonds discuss Alonso’s chances. “What position we are now in all this?” asks Briatore.
Symonds replies: “To be honest, I don’t know Flavio. It’s got to have been good for Fernando. But I honestly don’t know where he is.”
In the final part of the transcript, several minutes after the crash, the Renault team return to the subject of Piquet and his condition and at this stage Briatore adds his own concern for the young Brazilian driver’s welfare.
Engineer: “Where is Nelson? Have you seen him?”
Briatore: “Is he OK, Nelson? Is he OK?”
Alonso: “The pitlane is closed until we arrive?”
Engineer: “He climbed out, mate, and ran across the track.”
Engineer: “Yeah, the pitlane is still closed.” These are the days you’ll remember
F1 = Bullshit! – post by carlosab – 15-09-2009
Hombre, no sé yo, después de ver las imágenes del ensayo previo que hizo Piquet antes de la carrera, donde hace exactamente el mismo trompo en el mismo sitio solo que algo más despacio y sin tocar la pared… demasiados indicios…
Si no hay pruebas suficientes, que eculpen a Renault y Briatore, pero siempre quedará la duda.»¡Me enrosco!»
F1 = Bullshit! – post by Kalandraka – 15-09-2009
Hombre, pues si lo hicieron aposta, son unos genios y tenían que estar fichados por Ferrari para la estrategia en carrera. Si consigues que Alonso saliendo el «porretas», «gracias» a que Piquet se de una hostia en la vuelta 14 o 15, quedando n vueltas hasta el final, quede primero, es para enmarcar. ;-)El ajedrez es un gran juego. No importa cuan bueno sea uno, siempre hay alguien mejor; no importa cuan malo sea uno, siempre hay alguien peor. Horowitz
F1 = Bullshit! – post by Shin Chan – 15-09-2009
Quien entienda un poquito de F1 y viese aquella carrera observará que carece de sentido montarse una estrategia así de paranoica.Mira que trompa! que pedazo de trompa!
F1 = Bullshit! – post by El tarao – 15-09-2009
El titulo de esta charla esta clavao. Eso es lo que es la F1
F1 = Bullshit! – post by Miguelito_Tal – 15-09-2009
esa estrategia solo es posible maquinarla por parte de una mente enferma como la mía jeje
F1 = Bullshit! – post by IM Blowsky – 16-09-2009
Pues lo han conseguido, Briatore y Symonds han dejado el equipo Renault. Para un tipejo divertido que había en el paddock…These are the days you’ll remember
F1 = Bullshit! – post by carlosab – 16-09-2009
Si es que eso que dijo Symmonds de «nosotros no tenemos nada que ver, la idea fue de Nelsinho», era un poco autoincriminatorio, como cuando te dicen «yo no he sido ni lo volveré a hacer». :-)»¡Me enrosco!»
F1 = Bullshit! – post by David Ventas Cosano – 16-09-2009
Bah, se han visto cosas peores a lo largo de la historia… Por ejemplo este Terrible accidente de F1 